Frannie,
Do you have any daughters? Are they single?
No Apologies ( of the I-can't believe-I-posted-this class)
my name is noel (pronounced as in xmas) parsons.
i was disf'd from the lake hodges congregation in escondido, calif. in 1992, because i wanted to be.
the reason?
Frannie,
Do you have any daughters? Are they single?
No Apologies ( of the I-can't believe-I-posted-this class)
up front at the weekly tcs meeting they are commenting about how much money they've rose for the new kingdom hall.
but i was thinking about how they get all the money, and if i understand it correctly, they raise money and sell the old kh property and give all that money back to the society.
then from there, the society gives out a loan w/ like a 3% interest rate, and on top of that, takes the title to the kh and puts the kh in their names.
Ok this seems to be a urban legend in the making.
After construction the hall is dedicated which means given back to the WTS. Local elders are used to hold the deeds, but the WTS actually owns the property, building and attachments.
Can anyone furnish evidence that the Watchtower actually owns Kingdom Halls directly? I'm not talking about cases where a congregation is paying off a loan from the Society. I mean, somewhere where the deed actually names the Society as owner.
Every congregation I have been in, the cong has a local corporation formed to own the land, pay the bills, etc. Anybody remember the corporation annual meeting, a short little thing after the service meeting where not much happened but everybody voted in members to the local corp?
Looking for facts here, not hearsay, not rumors. Anyone?
No Apologies (of the kidney-harvesting class)
please feel free to scroll down to scully's post to see a copy of the letter for you to copy and paste and use click here or please re-look at the first post of this thread for those interested:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/17/68071/1.ashx.
please note this above noted link will be up and running shortly by at least 9:15 est march 12, 2004. there was a problem with the msword file last night and to protect people, things had to be adjust and of course i was not around.
Awesome letter, but I wanted to point one small typo:
Even though it is a registered not-for-profit corporation in the United Stated of America
you misspelled States. I know its picky, but this is important stuff, appearance is everything. Spelling counts!
No Apologies (of the no nit too small class)
you want names, watchtower-kgb?
i'm jon grimes.
most folks call me jonathon.
The DA announcement,
Jon Grimes, or, Grimey, as he likes to be called....
Sorry Git, I couldn't resist a little Simpson's humor at your expense!!
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the following article comes out of minnesota and is entitled "annandale church isn't liable in abuse suit.".
i'm off to work now, so don't have time to comment, but would like to post it before i leave.. http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4655055.html
But in an opinion written by Judge Robert Schumacher and decided with judges Bruce Willis and Wilhelmina Wright, the court ruled that the organization didn't have control or custody of the girls when the alleged abuse happened. Incidents were alleged to have taken place on a snowmobile, in an automobile and at the alleged perpetrator's house, not at a Jehovah's Witnesses function or on the organization's property, the panel reasoned.
Can somebody throw our judges a freaking CLUE?????? Nobody said the cong had custody of the victims! The problem is when they were informed of the abuse, they failed to report it to the proper authorities!!! They pressured the victims to remain silent!!!
No Apologies (of the ashamed to be a Minnesotan today class)
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my family has 3, and i'm considering getting a tattoo of one of them on my right arm.
which one do you like better, and do you have a coat of arm's?
Could someone enlighten me as to what the heck you are all discussing??
I mean where did you find these? What do you mean by legal? This is not like the "Name a Star" scam I take it?
No Apologies
(of the orphaned class)
i recently talked to a jw ?elder?
friend of mine, who said that they just received a letter (us) from the society, stating that they should ?da?
anyone who takes a blood transfusion.
I agree with elsewhere, this sounds like a lawsuit for slander just waiting to happen.
What if I just plain don't know which particular component or procedure is on the disapproved list this week, and I pick the wrong one???? I'll get DA'd for that? Evidently I will, since there is no real investigation done, where I could explain to the loving elders how I never wanted to break Jehover's unchangeable laws in the first place...
Somehow this loophole they seem to think they have discovered needs to be closed down. Its all semantics, and somehow this needs to be conveyed to whatever judicial system they are trying to scam.
Bottom line is, if word gets out that you have accepted a blood transfusion, you will be shunned by JW friends and family. Whether its DA or DF is irrelevant, coercion is being used to override your conscience/free will.
"and they're both getting baptised today!
no, not that kind of experience.. .
this happened this last weekend at the circuit assembly my (jw) wife attended.
"and they're both getting baptised today!
no, not that kind of experience.. .
this happened this last weekend at the circuit assembly my (jw) wife attended.
"And they're both getting baptised today!"
No, not that kind of experience.
This happened this last weekend at the circuit assembly my (JW) wife attended. During the program, a small child got loose and started running across the aisle at the front of the auditorium. A few chuckles were heard, of course. Soon, grandma appears on the scene, attempting to corral the unruly child. As she is chasing after the kid, running a little herself, all of a sudden grandma trips and takes a nasty fall.
Here is the interesting part, even my wife thought it odd: No one got up, no one went to help her up, see if she was ok, etc. Nada. zip.
Of course, we all know why this occurred. Borgs are trained to pay attention to the program, to ignore any kind of disturbance or distractions. Look what happened when Lloyd Barry collapsed on stage, somebody stepped up and finished his talk, nobody missed a beat.
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mine is from friday, the movie with ice cube, where a couple of jw ladies wake up ice cube's character's family one morning and there's some mouthing off, and you wouldn't believe the nasty words coming out of these sweet looking old "sisters".
hilarious!.
Reno911 on Comedy Central had an awesome bit a while back. Two cops in a patrol car see these two guys with ties and bookbags walking down the street. They jump out of the squad car, guns drawn, start screaming at the two to drop their bags, hit the ground. They tell them that they are looking for a couple of robbers matching their description. By this time the two guys are laying on the ground, almost peeing their pants, insisting they are innocent. The cops look through their bags, see the literature, then apologize and let them go.
The cops get back in the car, one laughs and says, "I just like giving them a hard time!" Too Funny!!!!!